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Old February 16th, 2007, 22:24
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Throwing this out there in the hope of learning from one of my many mistakes with poker. I think I've become too used to the loose style of play by some players and its affected my judgement, this will be considered by myself in future decisions. I suspect I made a typical fish decision but I leave judgement to you good folk....

The following hand takes place shortly after I joined a table, I have no previous information on my opponents.

Current Number of Players: 9
Moraka is dealt down [Qh Qd]
Opponent 1 folds
Opponent 2 folds
Moraka raises to (1)
Opponent 3 folds
Opponent 4 calls (1)
Opponent 5 calls (1)
Opponent 6 folds
Opponent 7 raises to (5)
Moraka calls (5)
Opponent 8 folds
Opponent 9 calls (5)

So I make a small raise on the flop hoping not to give the game away on my reasonably strong hand. I then call a re-raise which isn't terribly unusual where I am playing.

flop: [6h Jd Td]
Opponent 7 bets (14.50)
Moraka calls (14.50)
Opponent 9 folds

I'm left with an overpair and a hefty bet comes down. Getting too familiar with loose opponents I call committing myself to the pot. Hindsight being great I should have folded here of course.

turn: [8d]
Opponent 7 bets (45.73) and is all-in
Moraka calls (21.50) and is all-in
Opponent 7 is refunded (24.23)

I'm committed and expected to end up all-in by the river so called.

river: [Ks]
Opponent 7 shows [Ah Ac] for a pair of aces

Moraka mucks
Opponent 7 wins (85.25)


So how would you have played it?

Any and all feedback, swearing and laughing is welcome
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Old February 16th, 2007, 23:29
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I had a similiar hand and i will tell you what i did, but it was played differently. I was at a 200NL max buy in table. I just sat down. But doubled up to 410 already in about 3 hands played. I flopped a flush and other guy trips, and i won. SO I had qq in 3rd position, buy raised from 2 to 4.00. I reraise from 4.00 to 10 with qq. Another guy reraises on the bb up to 20.00 We both call. Flop comes t,6,3. Guy on the BB goes all if for 250 more. The one guy folds and i fold too. Here is the reason, i had only 20 committed, there was a raise, and reraise, then another reraise out of position. SO i have to put him on kk or aa. THen you are asking, why did you call then the reraise with qq. Because there was a caller, and if i flop trips, i know he is out of position and will push really hard right away no matter what, and if i flop trips, i take down a huge pot because he is going to commit himself so much out of position. But when he moves all in, i fold. A lot of newer players will call there and lose a lot, but i made the right move.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 10:25
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My thanks for your reply kid. I typically play a very tight game, aka rock, and only really get paid off as a result of other people doing what I did above, your right I should have placed him on aa or kk and dropped out.

Getting too attached to mediocre hands and not thinking straight like the fish I am. If you don't mind I'll post more examples of my stupidity as the come up and get your thoughts on them. Who knows may help out someone else too and we might even get a discussion going in the poker section here.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 13:12
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Nice explanation Kid...I wouldn't expect less from a guy with your background tho!
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Old February 17th, 2007, 16:50
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post away, i know i have helped many people just explaning situations out and the way you should be thinking. In my above reply, ya, he could have made a play on me and had ak or been a complete idiot, but it is not like it cost me a ton of money, and if that is the case, I will bust him up later. But without information on that player, THe play i made was correct.

Post away any time you do something you might not think was correct or a correct play. ANd i will comment.
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