NFL thoughts..

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Here are some of my recent thoughts on the NFL.

1. Let see, where to begin. Pacman Jones is accused of hitting a woman at a nightclub? No way. Not Pacman. Not possible. Not a player that is a true and thru thug at heart, got into TNA Wrestling even though he couldn't get into a physical confrontation and had previous felony charges on what seemed to be a daily basis. Not PACMAN.
2. Jason Garrett to get the Ravens head coaching job? Are you fuckin serious? While I do think this guy has some potential I don't see it right now. He is at least 3 years away from a head coaching position.What exactly has he done in three years that would want any team to make him their leader? Nothing. Yeah Dallas had a few good years but he is still only a few years removed from a short stint in the broadcast booth.
3.Miami is going to hire Sparano as their coach. Not a bad move, but can Parcells fire him if another terrible season is in store. This is one old team with not alot of money to move in the next free agents that will make the team succsessful. But with more draft picks can this team improve? We'll see by week 2 of next season.
4. Favre has some life still in him. Yes that Brett Favre. I can't believe it either but he is money to cover this weekend and deserves your money on it. Too bad he'll get destroyed in the SuperBowl but the damn near perfect Patriots but if he knows what is good for him, this is the last season for him.
5. Do the Patriots go undefeated? Well when all seems like they may lose, it won't happen. This team goes over the D' this week and finds the lapses and rolls the next two games. This is a disgusting fact. They cover the next two by at least 20 points each and yes that included the superbowl.
6. Are the Falcons just fucked or what? This team is in trouble. I'd go for the under of 6 wins next season. NO coach that is worth a fuck will take this team. Draft Brohm is their next option and then they are again back at squarer one since Brohm may be the worst case thing for them. Who is their PREMIER running back? Yeah, I got the same thoughts as well. No d, No O? Hell of a kicker will get you alot of unders.


I've got more but I'm gassed with these. Fuck em'. Lets make some money in the real betting season for us moneymakers. BASEBALL, BASEBALL.


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[The Great One]

Black quarterBACKS CAN NOT BE FRANCHISE GUYS IN THE nfl. tHIS IS A PROVEN FACT. Not one single of them this year played in all 16 games. They won't mention that on any tv program though.

They just rip on Eli Manning yet Eli is far better than any black quarterback going right now. Last year, they all ripped on Grossman and gave Vince rookie of the year honors yet Rex had better numbers than Vince.

Just reverse racism. No one can say the truth about black quarterbacks because as sson as you do, you are labeled a racist by our weak society.

[The Great One]

And it wasn't a nightclub for pacman, it was yet another strip club. Haha. Go figure. Strip clubs are where ugly people go because they can't go to real clubs and pick girls up.

It is "people" like pac man that makes me start to think my fence idea for montana and Kansas is very prasctical. You'd see crime go way down.

Pac man is also a prime example of the coin flip theory at it's finest

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OK. Let me be the first to step up to the plate with TGO.

I'm early thirties and in shape. I personally like strip joints when I'm out with the guys and a game is on. I will say that I frequent these places that serve top tier food and wine. These are not your local "strip club" but more of a upscale entertainment places.Yes I make enough money to support 2k nights like these have become.

Warren Moon. N'ough said. Hall of famer and Black. Yep, no shit. It's not a racial thing its a talent thing. Yes a talent thing. NOT A RACE DEAL.

Eli will never amount to a overpaid overachieving piece of shit. This guy is as talented as my left hand trying to rub one out. Useless.

I'll let you know what I think as some of the people don't want to discuss these things. I'm not always around due to my heavy travel schedule out of the country but when I'm here I'll be here.


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[The Great One]

I like Warren Moon but when I talk about the black quarterback thing, I am talking about the running black quarterbacks which 95% of them are. Moon was a straight pocket passer and ran as much as peyton. I am talking about the typical black quarterbacks thery hype up so much these days like Vince, Vick, Russell, etc. These guy have no chance iof ever being franchise quarterbacks.

Of course the titans fire norm chow, yet he must have been the problem. Kerry Collins led them to more points in his 1 start last yer than Vince did in any other of his starts.

As for strip clubs, they just bore me. If I am going out and douing that for the night, I prefer to go to a real club where I can pick up a girl for a random blowjob not spend whatever money for a girl that just rubbed her tits in some Mexicans face. She should be paying me, not the other way around.

[The Great One]

Plus alot of Moons success came in the run and shoot offense as it was first coming out and defenses had not adjusted to defend it back in that day. But like i said, he was a straight pocket passer.

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Now we've seperated black qaurtbacks by the offense they play in?

So your not a color of the skin racist but a racist that categorizing in the system of play that the QB? Are you fucking serious? You can't have any thought process that is reality of this.

Typical douchebags have narrow minded thought process to lead them to be racist and to lead others to their thought process. Now we know what members are douchebags. Or otherwise known as fucktards.

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[The Great One]

No, we are seperating black quarterbacks on if they are more "athletic type runners" playing quarterback or "pocket passers" but yes, some of Moons success had to do with the offense he was in. That is why Klingler and Ware in college also had the success they did and as you saw in the pros, nothing.

Who are the best quarterbacks right now and in the past 10 or 15 years?

1. Peyton manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Brett Favre
4. carson palmer
5. John Elway
6. Dan marino

and the list goes on and on. What have they all had in common besdies being white? They were pocket passers.

Pretty simple really. Running athletic black quarterbacks that rely on their athleticism to get them by often get hurt(not one single black quarterback played in all 16 games this year while Brady, favre, and Peyton haven't missed a game since I lost my virginity), they are too prone to mistakes, most lack the worth ethic, and the smaerts.

call it racism. I don't give a fuck. Like I've never heard it before but the numbers speak for themselves. Just5 look at the white pocket passers vs. the run around trying to make something happen homeboys.

Look at all of their injuries. McNabb has missed over half of the last 3 or 4 seasons, McNair has to be somewhat close in that too. Culpepper is 30 and he is already done. Most of these black run around quarterbacks careers are over at 30 too because they play the game like running backs while the pocket passers can maintain their prime past 30 (Brady, manning, Favre). All past 30 and no doubt, the best 3 quarterbacks of the 2007 season.

Everything I say is true. No opinions, no name calling. Just the facts. Problem is in this weak world we live in, you can't say things like this without it being "racism" even though everything I say can be backed by by factual evidence.

I knew Vince Young would be a bust before his first game and he proving me right but has any media person admitted this? Of course not. Wonder why that is? Guy has played like complete shit. Kerry Collins is 25 times the quarterback Vince is.

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Vince Young has been in the league for how long? And now he is already a bust? This is the guy that is able to do what he wants and to turn a game when he needs to. Sure, he's had injuries but this is one talented player.

Moon is just plain good. In his time and age he was one of the best. Now you need to limit to the last 10 to 15 years and I'd say your on the path to having a point but I'd have to wait on the Vince Young discussion as I believe he is one talented athlete.

McNabb was never talented and a underrated O'line did him well in the first few years. Now he struggles thru injury and age. Point made and taken.


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Well, i would say Warren Moon was a franchise qb for sure. It wouldnt have mattered what system he was in. He didnt have a quality running back and short receivers that were fast, that was the main reason they used the run and shoot. ANd they didnt use that his whole career. He was solid for every team and league he was in. You give him marvin, wayne and clarke, or moss, welker, watson and the rest of that crew, he might have had a better year than brady did this year.

As for your list, there is one QB that ran a decent amount that should be top 5 for sure. Steve Young. That guy didnt even have a long carreer starting wise, but could run at any time, and has either ther best, or top3 best all time qb rating. Elway ran a shit ton too early in his career, but after enough hits in the nfl, no qb can go much past 30 still running a lot, and not get knocked out of the league. Running qb's are never going to last any more for the long haul. White or black. THe guys are just too big and fast now. QB's now are labeled as mobile if they can just throw on the run, not actually run.

I will tell you one thing though, i loved having rockin randle when i played super tecmo bowl. He was fast as hell and had a rocket arm.

Originally Posted by The Great One

No, we are seperating black quarterbacks on if they are more "athletic type runners" playing quarterback or "pocket passers" but yes, some of Moons success had to do with the offense he was in. That is why Klingler and Ware in college also had the success they did and as you saw in the pros, nothing.

Who are the best quarterbacks right now and in the past 10 or 15 years?

1. Peyton manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Brett Favre
4. carson palmer
5. John Elway
6. Dan marino

and the list goes on and on. What have they all had in common besdies being white? They were pocket passers.

Pretty simple really. Running athletic black quarterbacks that rely on their athleticism to get them by often get hurt(not one single black quarterback played in all 16 games this year while Brady, favre, and Peyton haven't missed a game since I lost my virginity), they are too prone to mistakes, most lack the worth ethic, and the smaerts.

call it racism. I don't give a fuck. Like I've never heard it before but the numbers speak for themselves. Just5 look at the white pocket passers vs. the run around trying to make something happen homeboys.

Look at all of their injuries. McNabb has missed over half of the last 3 or 4 seasons, McNair has to be somewhat close in that too. Culpepper is 30 and he is already done. Most of these black run around quarterbacks careers are over at 30 too because they play the game like running backs while the pocket passers can maintain their prime past 30 (Brady, manning, Favre). All past 30 and no doubt, the best 3 quarterbacks of the 2007 season.

Everything I say is true. No opinions, no name calling. Just the facts. Problem is in this weak world we live in, you can't say things like this without it being "racism" even though everything I say can be backed by by factual evidence.

I knew Vince Young would be a bust before his first game and he proving me right but has any media person admitted this? Of course not. Wonder why that is? Guy has played like complete shit. Kerry Collins is 25 times the quarterback Vince is.